Guild Boss Invasion 2

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  • Am at 930 tickets and will hit the 13,000 guild tickets...

    nice and convenient for DB to have the 3.75 million mark (which I think is a massive achievement for mine and any guild) at 13,000 tickets - 1,000 short of obtaining two hearts.

    so being 70 tickets short of two hearts what to do? i can't justify spending 1000 gems and $12.99 just for one extra heart...

    Money grab aside, for the top 10 or so guilds that grind for four days, spend money and gems it's all pretty poor IMO

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  • FatCat69 wrote: »
    Oops. Posted originally in wrong thread. Moving this over here.



    I thought the 65/70 tokens was a shameful and painfully obvious money grab. Seriously poor taste, Big Fish. :(

    And I’m glad they went ahead and raised the bar with higher thresholds but the additional effort/investment required was NOT commensurate with the reward. Whoever designed this event and the associated reward tiers was either an idiot or a sadist.

    Last time 1.8 million tickets got you top rewards. This time you still have another 700k before you even get a rune? 2.5 million guild points seems reasonable but for the reward package that is being paid out at the top. The 5 million reward tier should have been significantly greater.

    And to get to 5 million total guild points, you either have to have a bunch of monster whales pulling the whole group or get an entire guild to commit just under 6000 gems to get 100k points per guild member? For that amount we should have enough tickets in our coffers to buy both Corrupted Hearts and every freaking token in the stupid Event Shop.

    But no. Top tier gets you 17k tickets. Enough for two corrupted hearts and 15 stinking tokens? That’s highway robbery.

    Shame on you Big Fish. Shameful event. Just miserable. @eej @joel

    I fully expect to see a response from Joel or Eej saying something along the lines of “we’re listening to your feedback and are disappointed with this event. We will do better next time.”

    Basically the same spiel they give at almost each event. I’m prob be cynical here but I feel like they purposely make these cash grabs and then come and say they are disappointed in the results and that they will do better next time, knowing that next time they will think of another way to make these events have a bad reward value.
  • I enjoyed the first boss invasion, unique hero with new way of introducing hero but the huge jump in whats required to get top tier rewards was way out of proportion to what was needed to get to 5 million.

    I also don't understand why you introduce a new hero and the last hero released doesn't go into the heroic portal, this doesn't make sense unless you intend to never give us heroic heroes again then you really pulled one over on all those that wanted the summons vs the gems for weekly rewards.

    I actually dread the fact that tomorrow when I collect my rewards I will buy the corrupted hearts then not even have enough gems left to make the runes.
  • MatadorGKilaMatadorGKila Member
    edited October 2017
    FatCat69 wrote: »
    Oops. Posted originally in wrong thread. Moving this over here.



    I thought the 65/70 tokens was a shameful and painfully obvious money grab. Seriously poor taste, Big Fish. :(

    And I’m glad they went ahead and raised the bar with higher thresholds but the additional effort/investment required was NOT commensurate with the reward. Whoever designed this event and the associated reward tiers was either an idiot or a sadist.

    Last time 1.8 million tickets got you top rewards. This time you still have another 700k before you even get a rune? 2.5 million guild points seems reasonable but for the reward package that is being paid out at the top. The 5 million reward tier should have been significantly greater.

    And to get to 5 million total guild points, you either have to have a bunch of monster whales pulling the whole group or get an entire guild to commit just under 6000 gems to get 100k points per guild member? For that amount we should have enough tickets in our coffers to buy both Corrupted Hearts and every freaking token in the stupid Event Shop.

    But no. Top tier gets you 17k tickets. Enough for two corrupted hearts and 15 stinking tokens? That’s highway robbery.

    Shame on you Big Fish. Shameful event. Just miserable. @eej @joel

    You can buy 25 tokens of Marrow in the event ticket shop.....?
    I do agree with everything else you said though.
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  • FatCat69 wrote: »
    Oops. Posted originally in wrong thread. Moving this over here.



    I thought the 65/70 tokens was a shameful and painfully obvious money grab. Seriously poor taste, Big Fish. :(

    And I’m glad they went ahead and raised the bar with higher thresholds but the additional effort/investment required was NOT commensurate with the reward. Whoever designed this event and the associated reward tiers was either an idiot or a sadist.

    Last time 1.8 million tickets got you top rewards. This time you still have another 700k before you even get a rune? 2.5 million guild points seems reasonable but for the reward package that is being paid out at the top. The 5 million reward tier should have been significantly greater.

    And to get to 5 million total guild points, you either have to have a bunch of monster whales pulling the whole group or get an entire guild to commit just under 6000 gems to get 100k points per guild member? For that amount we should have enough tickets in our coffers to buy both Corrupted Hearts and every freaking token in the stupid Event Shop.

    But no. Top tier gets you 17k tickets. Enough for two corrupted hearts and 15 stinking tokens? That’s highway robbery.

    Shame on you Big Fish. Shameful event. Just miserable. @eej @joel

    You can buy 25 tokens of Marrow in the event ticket shop.....?
    I do agree with everything else you said though.

    @MatadorGKila He’s saying that after buying 2 corrupted hearts there are only enough tickets to buy 15 tokens. Considering each player in the guild would have to average $20 worth of gems this is disgraceful.

  • You can buy 25 tokens of Marrow in the event ticket shop.....?
    I do agree with everything else you said though.

    You can buy 75 Marrow tokens in shop.

    50 for 7500 gems.
    I bought 20 that way to 3* him early to increase guild points.
    Wasn't enough.

    I want to emphasize something here:

    3.75 million for 13000 tickets, when you need 14000 for two hearts, and you can't get 1000 from raiding unless you spend a lot of cash.
    That's just plain sadistic.


  • Yes, the attention to detail and thought process on the reward levels.. the psychology of ensuring we JUST miss out on the next tier after spending four days grinding was quite clever.. I only wish there was that sort of attention to detail to some things we have been crying out for for years - like hero sorting and some other aesthetic pleasures that may not necessarily garnish big $$$$.

    Understand DB needs to make money with micro (or not so micro) transactions but this all left a bad taste in my mouth.
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  • KaltagKaltag Member
    edited October 2017
    I've been paying since December 2015, I honestly think this is the worst event I've seen. I'm not leaving the game over it, or getting upset, just an observation.

    The proximity to the last event, the lack of notice, the cash grab, the lackluster ticket payouts. I can't think of a single positive, other than the hero being unlocked for 10 tokens.

    My alt guild couldn't hit any reward tier, it's full of random casual players. The message when giving out rewards was pretty snarky.

    On my regular account I finished with over 130 unused courage because it was clear we couldn't make the rune reward and there was literally no benefit from continuing with the dungeon.

    (I should add that I had to join a different guild due to the (almost non existent) notice - I was taking a break and was incredibly lucky to get into a really lovely guild during the event. If we'd had notice and I'd been with my normal guild we would have a rune right now, instead of 7k tickets).

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  • I thought this event was ok, although there is always room for improvement. Im not just saying this because we actually got a reward for getting like 1.26m points but rather because there was some amount of difficulty in this event. It was not just grinding, there was some degree of fun as opposed to the first BI event. They reduced the amount of tokens required for the hero and the grindiness (nice word I created) for each quest was greatly reduced. The daily quest line actually changed each day if you noticed, one day its kill 50 enemies with monsters and the next is kill 50 undead enemies.
    So to sum it up:
    -Less grindy
    -They listened to our feedback and I admit they made this event somewhat bearable
    -The hero was not OP considering it was a 1 star, I still prefer Solaris
    -THEY ACTUALLY CHANGED IGOROK TO SOMETHING USEFUL AFTER SO LONG

    Could have been better if:
    -Even less grindy
    -New ideas such as new epic bosses so it feels more like "Boss invasion" rather than "grind invasion"
    -Reduce the thresholds for the rune since the rune only affects one hero at a time and 2.5m points is crazy
    -Interesting prizes, such as revealing a hint as to what might happen next for DB! Things like pictures with secrets than can only be revealed with the power of an eagle eye or adjusting the image in a certain manner. Kinda like Scott Cawthon and his fnaf teasers which could similarly apply to this idea but idk im weird.

    What we would like to see as a repeating feature with these events:
    -Reworks for forgotten heroes
    -New heroes
    -New runes

    plz change the shop items im not paying my invaluable tickets for 5 flowers or whatever
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  • I agree with Koros. Dungeons were interesting and quests had variety. Pretty good job :)

    Some complaints i have:
    Event tix not being scaled appropriately to the effort required;
    Events are too close to one another which makes it pretty tiring and we also lack resources to enjoy the event to its utmost (even paytoplay people cant pay all the time), and Halloween is dropping soon - a guild event once a month should be frequent enough; you can also sync it with these festivals.

    Thanks.
  • The bar was too high to get the rune. We had tons of players spend gems and time and it was too lofty to get the rune. My guild has 2.2m points and didn't get the rune. It's pretty sad.
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  • With the exception of the daily quest structure all other elements of this invasion served the single purpose of grabbing as much cash as possible regardless of consequences.
  • Kaltag wrote: »
    I've been paying since December 2015, I honestly think this is the worst event I've seen. I'm not leaving the game over it, or getting upset, just an observation.

    The proximity to the last event, the lack of notice, the cash grab, the lackluster ticket payouts. I can't think of a single positive, other than the hero being unlocked for 10 tokens.

    My alt guild couldn't hit any reward tier, it's full of random casual players. The message when giving out rewards was pretty snarky.

    On my regular account I finished with over 130 unused courage because it was clear we couldn't make the rune reward and there was literally no benefit from continuing with the dungeon.

    (I should add that I had to join a different guild due to the (almost non existent) notice - I was taking a break and was incredibly lucky to get into a really lovely guild during the event. If we'd had notice and I'd been with my normal guild we would have a rune right now, instead of 7k tickets).



    Your last paragraph makes absolutely no sense. Are you saying you QUIT your probably top 20 guild to join a guild that you knew was garbage ? Oh well, I wonder what runes I should craft from the 3 corrupted hearts I got from this great event.
  • FatCat69FatCat69 Member
    edited October 2017
    He's saying that he was taking a break from his normal guild. As a result of the short notice, he had to join another guild (because his spot was already filled and they weren't going to kick anyone midweek) and if he had received notice, he would have been in his own guild for BI2 and received the new blue rune. Instead, the guild he was able to join was only able to muster 7K tickets for rewards.
  • Come on people. This is a non-competitive event. There is no reason for DB to compete for our enjoyment of the game. Non-competitive money is just as good as cash
  • bvs72 wrote: »
    Come on people. This is a non-competitive event. There is no reason for DB to compete for our enjoyment of the game. Non-competitive money is just as good as cash

    It certainly was for Underworld.
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  • my biggest problem with the event was it seemed like a lot of time running the game for very little payout if you couldnt get one gorillion good boss points, and also, the monster bonus was so huge that you had to run them. as someone who didnt have the evos to ascend marrow it was painful to watch him die in 1-2 hits and waste a slot every run. (except he granted the big bonus for the other monsters)

    the third dungeon was dull but took forever, the second dungeon was auto runnable. i feel like theres a middle ground where you have some challenge without it taking like 10 minutes a run. and also, getting rewards during the event is nice because it feels like actual progress is being made + you can use them to do better for the rest of the event.

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  • Personally, I didn't mind this even at all. I didn't find it thrilling, by any means, but it felt FAR less onerous than the last Invasion. Still room to improve, but there's certainly movement in the right direction.

    I agree wholeheartedly with Koros' assessment, and wish only to add that we ALSO want to see more epics released!

    As far as the complaint that it's a "cash grab", I think folks forget that without the cash, there is no game. While I did spend a little bit on gems this event, I wasn't compelled to buy my way to a Marrow with 6 stars and rune him out with legendary superiors OR to spend untold amounts of resources to grab the coveted top prizes. I played enough to get Marrow to 3 stars, pick up a bunch of Solaris tokens on Monday, and still managed to have fun. Were there less than awesome parts? Yes. But the "cash grab" part didn't bother me in the least. After all, not all of us NEED every hero maxed out the second we get them, but obviously there are enough of us who do feel that way. Otherwise, the devs would find other ways to encourage in-game purchases...

  • the third dungeon was dull but took forever, the second dungeon was auto runnable. i feel like theres a middle ground where you have some challenge without it taking like 10 minutes a run.

    I think that was on you. With Marrow fully ascended, the third dungeon didn't take long. It was much better than the last guild invasion third dungeon.
    Rkr1970 wrote: »
    I think folks forget that without the cash, there is no game. .

    D'oh! I'd forgotten!
  • danac wrote: »

    the third dungeon was dull but took forever, the second dungeon was auto runnable. i feel like theres a middle ground where you have some challenge without it taking like 10 minutes a run.

    I think that was on you. With Marrow fully ascended, the third dungeon didn't take long. It was much better than the last guild invasion third dungeon.

    You thought so? I was able to auto run the last one once we had the defense bonus in place, but this time the enemies were immune to many attacks and the enemies didn't appear in the same rooms every run, so it was manual run every time for me. The Lich required manual targeting and careful management of special attacks, so again, manual all the way, and it took several rounds to wear the Lich down. Not ten minutes, but certainly the length of tome it took prevented me using all my courage.

    Both events required a bit of mixing and matching of runes, not a big deal for me as I had the runes and the gold to remove them, but some people struggled.

    As always, not everyone is going to be able to extract the maximum pleasure and reward from any event, and it's probably impossible to balance the thing so everyone is happy.

    It wasn't bad, but I preferred the last one.

  • FatCat69FatCat69 Member
    edited October 2017
    I’d agree — the first GBI was painless to autorun once the aerial defense buff was in place. This time, the third was fast but manual.

    @Barleyman — using a friend’s Yorick for Marked For Death on the Lich allowed you to one shot the Lich using Koros’ third ability.
  • Barleyman wrote: »

    I think that was on you. With Marrow fully ascended, the third dungeon didn't take long. It was much better than the last guild invasion third dungeon.

    You thought so? I was able to auto run the last one once we had the defense bonus in place, but this time the enemies were immune to many attacks and the enemies didn't appear in the same rooms every run, so it was manual run every time for me. The Lich required manual targeting and careful management of special attacks, so again, manual all the way, and it took several rounds to wear the Lich down. Not ten minutes, but certainly the length of tome it took prevented me using all my courage.


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    I couldn't auto either. But I could manual run it without any danger or difficulty.

    It took me longer the last time, here, it was maybe 4-5 minutes, and required little attention, I had every move to the Lich mapped out. Time consuming but not oppressively so like the it was for the other poster.

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